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That's kinda against the idea here, jake.  The idea is not to give builder more stuff that you can get if you just become vip.. the idea is to make builder different from vip, give reason to want both instead of just skipping over builder for vip.

With the removal of most of the kit commands, builder is the only "free" way to get them back.  You can also just pay, and become VIP.. and get all of the same perks, plus more.  This leaves absolutely no incentive for a VIP to work towards builder.. or even for non-vip's to try and get it, because it's easy to just think "Nah, I'll donate next (whenever) and get all that anyway.)  As such, builder needs to have a few things added or changed.  Nothing unreasonable, or server breaking.. but those of us who are willing to put in the work on builds, able to con(vince) people to sign off on books, and willing to pay the cash for the rank should get something that's outside the norm, which you don't get just for being VIP.

Simple ideas being

• Additional, unique kits

Ideally these would reflect on the achievement, which is "builder". 
An armor kit, including helmet with Respiration and Aqua Affinity on it, and boots with Feather Fall.. say usable every few days - as an example.
Also, maybe a redstone kit that gives a small amount of powder, a couple redstone torches, a repeater or two, maybe a comparator.  (Just enough so that, if you're just shy of finishing a project, you can just /kit it.)

• Permanent Buffs

Low level buffs that reflect on the achievement, such as Haste or Jump (similar to pyramid effects, but not as powerful as a large pyramid)

• Admin Shop Access

A small admin shop specially for builders, with a limited selection of items that are a bit more difficult to get. **To prevent econ issues, builders would not be permitted to set up shops selling these item types, or items that can be made from them, if they use the admin shop.

• Money

Essentially, the Jobs plugin, but limited to builders.  No leveling, just a very small amount of money, and only for placed blocks.  Nothing to get rich on, just a way to get a little extra pocket change for those of us who put in build effort.

• Commands

Again, nothing game breaking.. one suggestion I saw that was great was /top (put you in the first open space directly above your head)

• Pets

So far, pets are just for show.. if they're not going to be made combat useable, perhaps a second pet for builders?  Not really related, but it's something different.. and with so few of us shouldn't trouble the server too much (I think)
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No doubt there are other ideas out there - and likely a lot of "that's not fair!" complaints about these suggestions.. if you don't like 'em, please give us some other ones.  Yes, I'm trying to promote my own rank here, but it's something not very many have worked for (and gotten), even though it's reasonably possible for anybody to get.. given time and effort.

Loosing materials to clag is a separate issue.  I know you don't think it is, but it is.  It's two different exploitation problems that don't necessarily have the same answer.

What you're referring to is things like the stripped desserts.. yes?  Loosing materials to clag isn't a real big deal, if it doesn't destroy the map.  A good example is the huge sugarcane farm Asteria has.  We can mow it down, throw away sugarcane, and there's no damage done to the map.  No desserts stripped, no mountains mowed down.

I'll try to get into my bukkit account and see what I can come up with later today.. but capping the amount of cash a player can earn per day via jobs will solve the problem of excess funds flooding the economy.  No matter how much a player makes by breaking blocks, there will be people who will mow through deserts and the like to get money.  It'd be less, but they'll still do it.  So something else will need to be figured out to protect the BeardedCraftian environment.

Can you set the jobs to pay only on pickup?

The problem with this solution is they'd just pick it up and throw it back down =/

Rabid, I wasn't saying base the decisions on the player votes.  The idea being twofold, 1 the players feel like they have more input into the future of the server they love so dearly.. and 2 you boss-types have an idea of what the playerbase would like to see happen.  Even if you completely ignore the polls and implement against the votes, at least you'd know what we, the hoard, think.

So am I.  If you can find one to set up the stuff with we've got plenty of people willing to fill it all in

I'm not sure if you're able, but I would suggest possibly checking logs to see if said player was even online during the hours lost in the rollback.  Perhaps there's a server plugin available that will let you log all enchantments to items and who made them within X time period?

Also, I'm sure you've thought of it, but I'd keep a record of who makes replacement requests and how often (based on the number of rollbacks).. just as an aid in identifying people taking advantage.


By the way, I lost a full set of diamond armor, all with protect or fire protect 4, unbreaking 3 on all of it, two stacks of diamond blocks, five dragon eggs, and a stack of Rabid's heads.  can I get a Reimbursement? 

I disagree with this in part.  It's not survival if you can run away anytime things get slightly dangerous.  On the flip side, it is fairly inconvenient when I'm just bouncing around from home to home movin' stuff.  I would suggest, instead of removing the timers in non pvp areas, simply remove the 'don't move' portion of it.  Allows us to roam our chests or whatever while waiting for the 3 seconds to click through.  Would also fix the lava issue.. if you can't survive 3 seconds in lava, you were already low on hp anyway.